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Offline wafdawg

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #25 on: 2016 Oct 07, 06:58:30 AM »
I was warned many times by military that when the USD crashes we will go to WW3.    Have read these comments and emails for years and we are here.    Read Steve Quayle and Dave Hodges Common Sense Show.      Behind the scenes our military has been destroyed, so we cannot defend ourselves.   Now we provoke a war w/ Russia/China/Who ever and it will be a war the USA loses on US soil.    All the pieces of the puzzle are in place now.    This is all planned for the last 20 plus yrs to get the USA/West to the point of collapse.  The Yuan will rule.   Our world governments have agreed to destroy the West and Christianity.     This for me means we have entered into the Time of Tribulation.    A TV show w/ the girls of Fatima that saw a vision of Virgin Mary many years ago, recently stated that 60 to 70% of the world population will die soon unless we change immediately.    Our media is owned by the corporations that want to kill us so we get no information and that is why so many read news from overseas on line.    The West citizens are kept in the dark.    The take over is for one world government and one world religion, the Muslim religion.    Many have read the Bible and Koran say the books are very similar.    A top religious cleric for Christianity and for Muslim testified in on line articles.    The difference between the two religions?     The Muslims believe the 12 Iman or Mahdi, their Holy Leader, will appear on the Earth when there is tremendous turmoil.   ISIS is in all countries and awaiting a world wide attack on the West to bring turmoil.     The Christians and Muslims agree that Mahdi is the same as the Bible's Anti Christ..........

There you go again talking about things you don't know about.  The Mahdi is not the Anti-Christ.  He is the one that defeats the Anti-Christ.  The Anti-Christ according to the Quran is named the Dajal.
 

Offline Y7ASyxC

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Offline Y7ASyxC

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #27 on: 2016 Oct 07, 07:05:52 AM »
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Offline RhodiumPanda

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #28 on: 2016 Oct 07, 07:13:34 AM »
It is good to get Y7ASyxC's perspective - since he lives in a country on the border with Russia that also opposed Russia in WWII.  (Finland also has 3 of the best personality/capability F1 drivers - another subject separate from this)!  Also is one of the countries with all of its land the farthest from the equator - very dark or very light but always colder than most other places!

It is strange how Pandamonium and Barsenault have very similar outlooks investment-wise, but can argue like polar opposites.  That is the difference between being a full-blown pessimist and full-blown optimist even while neither really drinks the Kool-aid.  If Barsenault did - he'd be pumping stocks on here!  Barsenault is correct that inherently worthless overpriced $'s are a current gift to get real, underpriced assets!   Pandamonium is correct that everthing can/will change dramatically, but the timing is really not known, but laws of economics cannot be violated indefinitely.

Pandamonium - the nuclear situation means that war on US soil could still be avoided with world-wide population obliteration (not just 60-70% - the other will be slow death - unfortunate, but true).  Remember - just 1 Trident submarine has 24 X 10 X roughly 3 Hiroshima blasts on it  (That is 240 cities or areas hit with blasts each 3 times Hiroshima).  Russia has similar things (Delta IV's) and more overall warheads, esp. ICBM's.  That is why it is so stupid to be expanding NATO around them, without them and provoking them (esp. after they already gave up, once).  Either country is dangerous as cornered cats.  (UK, China, India, France to substantial degrees, too - most others with nukes lack the delivery systems).

 

Offline Y7ASyxC

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #29 on: 2016 Oct 07, 07:25:43 AM »
To be honest, i currently see the invasion of young arab males into Europe and especially Finland as a greater threat than Russia. It's been pure hell here ever since the fall of 2015. My streets are filled with these young men, and they have no regards for our culture, laws or lifestyle whatsoever. They are raping and murdering finns on a daily basis. The MSM is covering everything up. There's a huge ideological battle going on, with cooky leftists on one side that want to invite anyone including war criminals, rapists and known murderers here to live on finnish social security indefinitely. The other side wants them out.

A alternative news site, called WTF magazine in finnish has become the main source for real news about the immigration crisis. The finnish politicians, and MSM reps are in total panic. The guy that runs the site lives in Barcelona, from where he publishes his site in finnish language. about 48 hours ago a finnish court ruled him to be apprehended and jailed on sight, and brought to Finland to face justice against all national and international laws. That just a fraction of what's going on here.

For anyone wanting to know really what the immigration crisis is about, i've found nothing more informative and also scary than the blogposts that sum up the German university professor Gunnar Heinsohn's book, published in 2007, but was forgotten due to the GFC that erupted shortly thereafter. This is a long, but extremely important read:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.fi/2007/06/continent-of-losers.html
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Offline Y7ASyxC

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« Reply #30 on: 2016 Oct 07, 07:31:39 AM »
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Offline Y7ASyxC

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #31 on: 2016 Oct 07, 07:34:11 AM »
this is the online publication, it's in finnish, but already the images will give you a sense of what it's about:

http://mvlehti.net/

some articles in english:

http://mvlehti.net/kategoria/in-english/
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Offline wafdawg

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #32 on: 2016 Oct 07, 10:53:09 AM »
To be honest, i currently see the invasion of young arab males into Europe and especially Finland as a greater threat than Russia. It's been pure hell here ever since the fall of 2015. My streets are filled with these young men, and they have no regards for our culture, laws or lifestyle whatsoever. They are raping and murdering finns on a daily basis. The MSM is covering everything up. There's a huge ideological battle going on, with cooky leftists on one side that want to invite anyone including war criminals, rapists and known murderers here to live on finnish social security indefinitely. The other side wants them out.

A alternative news site, called WTF magazine in finnish has become the main source for real news about the immigration crisis. The finnish politicians, and MSM reps are in total panic. The guy that runs the site lives in Barcelona, from where he publishes his site in finnish language. about 48 hours ago a finnish court ruled him to be apprehended and jailed on sight, and brought to Finland to face justice against all national and international laws. That just a fraction of what's going on here.

For anyone wanting to know really what the immigration crisis is about, i've found nothing more informative and also scary than the blogposts that sum up the German university professor Gunnar Heinsohn's book, published in 2007, but was forgotten due to the GFC that erupted shortly thereafter. This is a long, but extremely important read:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.fi/2007/06/continent-of-losers.html

Not that i condone what is happening but you reap what you sow.
 

Offline Y7ASyxC

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #33 on: 2016 Oct 07, 11:28:34 AM »
Not that i condone what is happening but you reap what you sow.

If i understand correctly, you are referring to the middle-east invasions by western militaries... Well, i didn't invade anyone, neither did my country.
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Offline pandamonium

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #34 on: 2016 Oct 07, 03:41:09 PM »
Most europeans countries are being murdered and raped daily by immigrants.   The police are told to leave the immigrants alone and not report anything.   The european and US leaders know this will lead to the takeover of many countries by migrants and it is planned.    We are all being set up and we in the west do not fight back.   The muslim migrant rapists went to Russia to rape/pillage.   The Russian men beat them to near death.   Russia has real men like the Korean war US vets i grew up with.    West governments are against their own people, look at Merkel and how she has destroyed Germany.    The Germans allowed it as do all the west.    Articles say that Saudi Arabia bought out the west leaders long ago.   As far as war I grew up a military brat.    I listen to military when they sound the alarm about the upcoming war.   
The two top religious clerics, one Christian and one Muslim both agree that the Bible's interpretation of the Anti Christ is the same interpretation of the Koran's Mahdi.    That is what i am saying.....
 

Offline wafdawg

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #35 on: 2016 Oct 07, 03:47:29 PM »
Not that i condone what is happening but you reap what you sow.

If i understand correctly, you are referring to the middle-east invasions by western militaries... Well, i didn't invade anyone, neither did my country.

It's exactly what I'm referring to. When good people stand idly by, bad things happen. When you support corruption actively or passively there can be a whole of negative unforeseen consequences. The corruption is to a level now that the layman can't do anything about it. We hardly even acknowledge it nowadays.
 

Offline Y7ASyxC

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Offline badon

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #37 on: 2016 Oct 07, 05:04:32 PM »
I split and merged some of the earliest posts in this topic from after here:

Re: MCC LIST #183, move from LBC and continuation here at the CC forum
 

Offline RhodiumPanda

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #38 on: 2016 Oct 07, 06:49:09 PM »
Y7ASyxC,

Wow - I had no idea things were that bad in Finland with the immigration problems on top of the massive socialism.  You are several years ahead of the U.S. - although if Obama had his way (didn't have Congress to stop him) he would outdo Merkel and Finland in bringing in uncontrolled refugees and terrorists.  Hillary and wannabe First-Lady/abuser Bill would do the same.   Here I thought Finland was a quiet place with only Rallycar fanatics, snowmobilers, hockey players, go kart racing for F1 training and some guys named Hakkinnen, Raikkonen, and Bottas.  I do appreciate the utter emotionless non-A**hole personality of the Finn drivers!
 

Offline StackOfPandas

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #39 on: 2016 Oct 07, 07:24:35 PM »
This reminds me, although they don't look so special, in a decade or 2 from now, it might be a good idea to own a set of the pretty overlooked  2016 G20 summit in Hangzhou Proof silver china coin set. A decade from now this G20 summit might be viewed as world changing..

222269769919

Mintage 50000, and sterling silver. I like sterling silver.

edit: I believe that in the RT article, the same 10.92 percent weight of the yuan and the euro is a typo.


Edit by badon: Linkify.

Why is this coin world changing? Whta is a G20 summit? Mountain climbing? K2?
 

Offline pandamonium

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #40 on: 2016 Oct 08, 03:17:59 AM »
Christianity in the Pacific NW where i live, is dying quick too.     Real believers will fight the wicked.    The military i grew up with did not hesitate to put their life on the line.   The NW atheists live by the laws of money today and have dumped the laws of our Bible into the sewer.    We have no spiritual protection.   Rape and gang rape is very common in our High Schools, Colleges, communities, etc.   Why?   Our police, City and County and State Troopers have enjoyed about 40 plus yrs of legal rape/crimes with out any accountability.      My letters about the legal crimes all went viral and continue to.     No one will hold the wicked accountable so NW rape/crimes will now go to the moon.    It is just like Europe, rape and crime is legal.    Problem is we have few muslim immigrants in the NW.    The people have accepted rape as part of the price of living in the NW..........i have all the proof but zero will investigate.   The entire so called legal system is totally gone now.   
Where is the America i once knew?    Where is the home of the brave?    The NW and USA sold out to the laws of money so it will end badly......
Spiritual power is everything and we in the West have close to none so we are beginning to pay a horrible price......

The East will rule us w/ a iron fist.    MCC is the best of Chinese money.    Most all dealers in Asia say the wealthy Chinese will soon out bid each other for our early year, rare MCC.      We will see Racing Pigeon money levels for our MCC soon.........
 

Offline Y7ASyxC

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #41 on: 2016 Oct 08, 04:16:51 AM »
Rickards on latest keiser report, about his latest book, China, the IMF, the SDR, and 'ice-9'

https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/362023-episode-max-keiser-977/

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Offline Y7ASyxC

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #42 on: 2016 Oct 08, 04:30:25 AM »
russia's denial (read, acknowledgement) about the airspace violations while protecting the secret iskander transport using civillian vessels:

https://www.rt.com/news/361979-finland-russia-jets-violation/
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Offline RhodiumPanda

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #43 on: 2016 Oct 08, 07:54:09 AM »
Re: Politics

Y7ASyxC - The reality behind the MSM reporting of what the incompetent strategic actions by the west  these past 25 years (8 in particular) is causing is truly depressing.  Your links are sobering.

Pandamonium - Although I agree with you on some of that, esp. MCC direction and money over religion being reality as well as the suicidal west; I haven't seen rampant rape in my area or widespread police abuse.  (In fact I've never personally known of any rape in my 50+ year life, except possibly have known of 1-2 (2nd hand) of some borderline date rape).   There is a police state and they are used to raise revenue via continuous speeding tickets instead of going after real crime - but I haven't heard of them committing flagrant crimes (other than isolated events).  Things must be much worse near the coast than inland!   I'm not saying it can't happen, but it certainly isn't obvious in my area (medium-population area spread across urban and rural).  I don't go looking for it either, so maybe I'm an ostrich on that subject!



Re: MCC Potential (early vs. recent)

Pandamonium - Do you think that early MCC fiat and non-fiat (20-33 year old) and recent (1-4 year old) MCC will move up the same %-wise from current levels, even though the older stuff is already far more expensive relative to mintage?   Fiat vs. Non-Fiat is already irrelevant because the Munich Kilo went from $700-$80,000 (112 X) and outperformed all fiat in 1994-2011.   Will low mintage continue to be rewarded in your opinion (which is what the 99 mintage Munich Kilo and 250 12oz in particular) already proved in the previous wave.  I agree it is all going up (and all going to do more more than preserve purchasing power), but I suspect mintage imbalances will be rewarded across the board - although recent 2012-2016 stuff may not get to the same price / mintage ratio; it could still go up 3X - 5X more %-wise and still not close the gap.   

I am curious what Trouble in particular (and others) think about this - esp. since you said large Chinese investors will drive this.   I don't expect a repeat of the 112 X performance in real terms because the 99 mintage Munich was the true key silver panda last time - and it and the 12oz Munich were the only Silver pandas under 500 mintage.  Now there are many sub-500 mintage silver pandas, but still few total numbers against other types of coins or recent fiat MCC - if many hard-core collectors that have to have 1 of everything silver panda related appear.  (Need quite a few less than 500 max of these types).
 

Offline badon

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #44 on: 2016 Oct 08, 04:54:29 PM »
badon, where is the link to your buy/sell?    I have a 1984 PF 68  Cameo Songyue silver pagoda for sale  $700    NGC 2773051-004   Probably not conserved......260 sets minted w/ 100 est surviving pop.......rare...

I think you mean the BST forum? I attached a screenshot. It's under the forum you're in now, reading this topic.
 

Offline badon

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #45 on: 2016 Oct 08, 04:55:34 PM »
A article on Dollar Collapse says the Chinese physical gold bullion exchange will open on Friday so expect a bump up in price...  Other articles on King World News, etc say the big commercial banks are covering their massive shorts but we will see.   IF that is true then a big upswing in price will be next week .....just what i read..

I haven't checked metals prices, did anything happen Friday?
 

Offline badon

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #46 on: 2016 Oct 08, 05:01:24 PM »
I stopped buying silver bullion a long time ago, simply because it's too bulky. You can't run with it. MCC is another matter completely. [...] gold bullion will grant you massive purchasing power, but that's boring. MCC is exciting.

I agree, but beware of the expectation of "massive purchasing power" from gold. If gold ever needs to be used for purchasing, the economic conditions will be so poor that you will get a bowl of soup in exchange for all your gold. Because of Gresham's Law, gold is unlikely to be reckoned in terms of purchasing power. Food will be more useful than gold or any other commodity if an alternative currency is needed, but does not exist yet.

Beware! Food is the most important investment you can make, and it's a lot cheaper than gold and coins.
 

Offline badon

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #47 on: 2016 Oct 08, 05:29:58 PM »
[...] the morons in charge seem to want to get the cold war going again with Russia and China. [...] It is real smart of these morons to get the 2nd most potent military and most natural resources country pissed off and working with the most populous and production capable country at the same time that every uncivilized psycho wants to commit terrorist acts. The US and Europe should be working with the civilized and strong China and Russia against all the terrorist dirt-bags across the globe.  What they are doing is pissing off a massive bear and a dragon while already dealing with masses of suicidal tiny terrorist dogs.  Utter idiocy and suicidal.  Very depressing.  No matter how prepared you are yourself, this kind of anti-strategic action can make it all vaporize.

I realize you were being sarcastic, but you're literally right about it being "smart" to start another cold war. This is exactly what is happening. Democratic countries are all about manipulating the voters, and the easiest way to control people is to make them hate. This is why no allied soldiers were allowed to attack Hitler in WWII, and those in his government who wanted to overthrow him received no help from the Allies. This is why a Japanese counterattack on Pearl Harbor was called "unprovoked", when in reality, the USA had been at war with Japan since 1937. The only way to find this suppressed information is to look at the history, locations, and money trail of the American soldiers who were fighting Japan. Here is an example (search for "1937" to find it quick):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_Lee_Chennault

The USA and other democratic countries actually make deals with "enemies" to put on a good show, and pretend to be hostile and aggressive. Some old and new examples:

* The USA told Iran NOT to release their American hostages until AFTER Ronald Reagan was elected President. They didn't really even want to have them, but the USA supplied Iran with money and weapons in exchange for keeping the Americans as prisoners.
* The CIA got caught supplying Iraq with nuclear technology, via Switzerland. That's why Dubya (Bush 2) was so insistent Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, despite the fact there was no evidence for it. When they invade Iraq, they found nothing because Saddam Hussein realized he was being set-up as a USA military opponent, and he destroyed everything the USA gave him. Hanging him was the USA giving a lesson to everyone else to play the game, or else.
* Israel's heyday was when Yasser Arafat could pretend to be the bad guy. Without him, Israel has become notorious for false flag attacks to keep their democracy voting in favor of more war.

Democracy has the longest history of failure of any style of government. Most frightening is the fact it always ends with mass-slaughter. Communism? Peaceful transfer of power to a new government (Soviet Russia, China, Vietnam, etc). Monarchy? Peaceful transfer of power to a new government (UK, Canada, Australia, India, Iran, etc).

How can it be that the King of England can step down peacefully in India (and other countries all over the world), but once they have a democracy, all they can do is kill each other (Pakistan etc)?

How about that were born in democratic revolutions (regardless of what style of government they "elect")?

* France. Bloodbath.
* USA. Bloodbath.
* Mexico. Bloodbath.
* Cuba. Bloodbath.
* Russia. Bloodbath.
* Korea. Bloodbath.
* China. Bloodbath.

Etc, etc, etc.

The end is coming soon for the USA-led West, and it's probably going to be another bloodbath. Remember, the UK democratically voted to secede from the European Union. The last time democracy happened in the USA in 1861...bloodbath.
 

Offline badon

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #48 on: 2016 Oct 08, 05:39:02 PM »
I was warned many times by military that when the USD crashes we will go to WW3.    Have read these comments and emails for years and we are here.    Read Steve Quayle and Dave Hodges Common Sense Show.      Behind the scenes our military has been destroyed, so we cannot defend ourselves.   Now we provoke a war w/ Russia/China/Who ever and it will be a war the USA loses on US soil.    All the pieces of the puzzle are in place now.    This is all planned for the last 20 plus yrs to get the USA/West to the point of collapse.  The Yuan will rule.   Our world governments have agreed to destroy the West and Christianity.     This for me means we have entered into the Time of Tribulation.    A TV show w/ the girls of Fatima that saw a vision of Virgin Mary many years ago, recently stated that 60 to 70% of the world population will die soon unless we change immediately.    Our media is owned by the corporations that want to kill us so we get no information and that is why so many read news from overseas on line.    The West citizens are kept in the dark.    The take over is for one world government and one world religion, the Muslim religion.    Many have read the Bible and Koran say the books are very similar.    A top religious cleric for Christianity and for Muslim testified in on line articles.    The difference between the two religions?     The Muslims believe the 12 Iman or Mahdi, their Holy Leader, will appear on the Earth when there is tremendous turmoil.   ISIS is in all countries and awaiting a world wide attack on the West to bring turmoil.     The Christians and Muslims agree that Mahdi is the same as the Bible's Anti Christ..........

There you go again talking about things you don't know about.  The Mahdi is not the Anti-Christ.  He is the one that defeats the Anti-Christ.  The Anti-Christ according to the Quran is named the Dajal.

99.99%+ of Christianity has nothing at all to do with Jesus. In fact, Christianity is so distorted, they can't even remember their alleged founder's name. It's not "Jesus". And he didn't write a single word of the bible. Take it for what it's worth - it's literally gossip and hearsay.
 

Offline badon

Re: Y7ASyxC's political thread
« Reply #49 on: 2016 Oct 08, 05:45:29 PM »
To be honest, i currently see the invasion of young arab males into Europe and especially Finland as a greater threat than Russia. It's been pure hell here ever since the fall of 2015. My streets are filled with these young men, and they have no regards for our culture, laws or lifestyle whatsoever. They are raping and murdering finns on a daily basis. The MSM is covering everything up. There's a huge ideological battle going on, with cooky leftists on one side that want to invite anyone including war criminals, rapists and known murderers here to live on finnish social security indefinitely. The other side wants them out.

A alternative news site, called WTF magazine in finnish has become the main source for real news about the immigration crisis. The finnish politicians, and MSM reps are in total panic. The guy that runs the site lives in Barcelona, from where he publishes his site in finnish language. about 48 hours ago a finnish court ruled him to be apprehended and jailed on sight, and brought to Finland to face justice against all national and international laws. That just a fraction of what's going on here.

For anyone wanting to know really what the immigration crisis is about, i've found nothing more informative and also scary than the blogposts that sum up the German university professor Gunnar Heinsohn's book, published in 2007, but was forgotten due to the GFC that erupted shortly thereafter. This is a long, but extremely important read:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.fi/2007/06/continent-of-losers.html

This is all the USA's doing, and much of it is intended to manipulate Europeans into supporting the USA's wars. The USA created a steady supply of refugees from its wars, and the USA has so much power over Europe's democracy that they have succeeded in persuading the EU governments to allow the refugees into their countries. Then, the local police dress up like mullahs and go murdering, thieving, and raping across the countryside, in false flag attacks to blame the refugees (I'm exaggerating a little bit).

The entire immigration situation is a finely crafted machine. It didn't happen by accident, and blaming the refugees is exactly what you're being manipulated to do. You and the refugees are both pawns of holy democracy, and you're both going to end up dead, dying, and begging for more (more democracy), until there's nothing left but craters.