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I can’t find this coin anywhere
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Here is another dragon 2 oz red coral mintage 500.
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Another beautiful dragon with a color ball. 5 oz antique silver. Only 388 minted. #2 produced.
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I'm all over silver...mining, ownx.com, and physical...holding my nose and hoping for bitcoin like prices. Lol.
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I thought Andrew Lee had a few, but he may have sold his...but I can't imagine he sold all of them...I think he sold them by accident, before he knew they were rare and were doing a recall.  That's in the memory banks, but could be wrong. Lol. I still have all mine - 5 of them. I think.
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Lunar coin / Re: 2015 2 oz silver lunar goat panda rare COA with artists names
« Last post by badon on 2019 May 06, 01:02:45 AM »
I have CoAs # 183 and 184 with artists named for my 2 Lunar Goats

Here's an update with dotdotdot's COA #183 and #184 included, for a total of 15 artist COA's known to exist, out of an estimated 30 (according to barsenault) that survived the recall and destruction:

102, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 183, 184, 185, 187, 193.

Owned, discovered, and/or recorded by:

AbeLinkin: 141, 142, 144.
badon: 102, 185.
barsenault: 145, 146, 147, 148, 149.
dotdotdot: 183, 184.
Golden-Lord: 193.
TedJR: 187.
Unknown: 143.

Right now the rare artist COA numbers stand at: 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148 & 149

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Based on this info it's probably fair to say that number 140 would also have the rare artist COA as well. This is where it gets interesting. If we assume that number 140 also has the artist COA, that would account for ten of the rare artist COA's. I wonder where the remaining possible 20 COA's line up in the number sequence?

Between 1 and 299 the "unlucky" number 4 appears at least once in a number 57 times. barsenault thinks that there were at least 30 with the rare COA. I wonder if it is possible that 57 actually exist? What would help disprove this idea would be if someone out there could share with us an example of a COA without the rare artist signature that also has a number 4 in it. Maybe someone reading this can do that for us.

Now... If there are only 30 out there would that mean that the other 20 COA's are numbers 40 through 49 and 240 through 249? I think that would be the next best place to check. But why leave out the other 4's in the line-up? Hmmmm??? This just keeps getting more interesting the more I think about it!

All COA's With 4's in them:

4, 14, 24, 34, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 54, 64, 74, 84, 94, 104, 114, 124, 134, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 154, 164, 174, 184, 194, 204, 214, 224, 234, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249,  254, 264, 274, 284, 294

Again, much appreciated barsenault.

AbeLinkin, you were the first to use bolding and colors there in the post I quoted above. Can you explain what the bolding and colors means?

All COA numbers with 4's in them:

Known artist COA's are bolded, and known non-artist COA's are in red. I got rid of green because it was hard to see. I removed the original bolding because COA numbers containing the number 4 in the ranges 40 to 49, 140 to 149, and 240 to 249 were hypothesized by AbeLinkin to be artist COA's, but 048 was discovered to NOT be an artist COA. We can revisit it later when more information is known, if we suspect the hypothesis was partly correct. For now, the working theory is most artist COA's have the number 4 in them because they were quickly disposed of by sending them to Western buyers who have no prejudice against the number 4. The number 4 is undesirable for Chinese buyers because it is pronounced the same as the Chinese word for "death", and thus considered unlucky in Chinese culture.

004, 014, 024, 034, 040, 041, 042, 043, 044, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 054, 064, 074, 084, 094, 104, 114, 124, 134, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 154, 164, 174, 184, 194, 204, 214, 224, 234, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 254, 264, 274, 284, 294.

With the addition of dotdotdot's COA #183 and #184, a pattern is starting to emerge for the 180's serial numbers. It's possible all of them are artist COA's. I listed the 180's serial numbers below, with known artist COA's in bold.

180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189

As you can see, 4 out of the 10 serial numbers are already confirmed to be artist COA's. That makes it easy to guess the other 6 might be artist COA's too, and the fact the coins were originally distributed to dealers in sheets of 10 makes it seem more plausible. Since we have COA #193 confirmed as an artist COA, it's possible the series continues into the 190's, adding 9 more for a total of 15 hypothesized artist COA's that might exist out there. Let's see what those numbers look like, with known artist COA's in bold:

180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199

With 15 artist COA's already known, if the 15 hypothesized ones exist above, that would bring the total to 30 COA's, which is the exact number barsenault gave us for the total number of artist COA's that escaped destruction. That seems too perfect to be a coincidence. Does this mean we have finally figured out which COA's remain to be discovered? The only way to know is to find the 190's COA's and check if any are artist COA's.

In summary, the COA numbers listed below are considered likely to be artist COA's. Confirmed artist COA's are bolded, and confirmed non-artist COA's are red. There are a 2 numbers in both lists, #184 and #194. The first list is all numbers with a 4 in them, and the second list is all the numbers 180 to 199.

004, 014, 024, 034, 040, 041, 042, 043, 044, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 054, 064, 074, 084, 094, 104, 114, 124, 134, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 154, 164, 174, 184, 194, 204, 214, 224, 234, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 254, 264, 274, 284, 294.

180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199

I suppose the next logical step is to list all 299 serial numbers, with the status of each one indicated when it is found. If we found all 299 serial numbers, then we would know with 100% certainty exactly how many artist COA's exist. The most interesting thing is there is only known artist COA that is not in either of those lists, COA #102 recorded by me back in 2016. Why is there only 1 outlier? Is it part of another, third, group of artist COA serial numbers? Or, did it somehow escape destruction by itself? If I remember correctly, both the COA numbers I recorded, #102 and #185 came directly from collections China, which explains why they don't have a 4 in the serial number. One of them came from a dealer who seemed to have kept it for his private collection instead of returning it for destruction when it was recalled. I don't remember which one that was.

One thing we can be sure of, the list of known artist COA numbers is looking less random the more we discover. That implies the destruction of the artist COA's was efficient and nearly complete, except for a few sequential groups that were sold early, before the recall. I interpret this to be additional evidence confirming the artist COA's really are quite rare, and only a few specific ones were sold quickly enough to escape destruction. barsenault says around 30 artist COA's survived. That's 3 sheets. Are there 3 groups of 10 sequential COA's that survived?

I will be very curious to find out if there are any other random survivors that don't fit in a neat sequential list, like #102. If the total number of survivors ends up being a non-round number like 31 instead of 30, I'm betting the random survivors will be the reason for the 1.

I have been speculating the recall and destruction of COA's with the artist names was done because there was some kind of licensing fee payment issue or disagreement that was not resolved by the time the coins were ready to ship. Either way, whatever problem occurred seems to be resolved now, and all COA's for later coins in the series include the artist names.
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Silver rose as predicted, reached a short term peak and declined a little bit to where it is now, at about $14.80. Everyone is predicting further decline. I usually don't post predictions of drops (even fewer people would my articles if they were bad news). I consider my upward prediction of 2018 Nov 07 to still be current, so I want to post another prediction of gains to alert anyone following this about a buying opportunity.

Prices usually drop a little more after I predict gains, which makes sense when I'm specifically predicting - giving advance foreknowledge - "it's time to buy". I expect prices will decline a little more and move sideways for a while before moving up again, but that is not part of the prediction. I hope you have sufficient time to start buying, but it could move up fast. Again, exactly how fast it will move up is not part of the prediction.

I'm getting better at putting my foresight into words, and the important thing is it contains enough information for a competent person to profit from me sharing this knowledge. Of course, an incompetent person can fail with it quite easily. Give a man to fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he sinks the boat and blames you.

The trend is in place. Just go with the trend. Silver is moving up, I promise. But always remember, the first investment everyone should make is a supply of food, clean water, and other daily essentials. It's cheap, and it will prevent you from needing to dump your good-but-inedible investments in exchange for food when it's not cheap.

Coins and other things that tend to move up when precious metals go up will also be positively affected, including gold. This is probably due to economic conditions, so platinum group metals may not rise along with silver and gold, especially palladium which is quite high right now. It depends on how much inflation there is, and whether economic growth declines or not.

I hope someone out there is benefiting from this.
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I have CoAs # 183 and 184 with artists named for my 2 Lunar Goats
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